*Cough - Bullshito! - cough*

Trump benefits from the 'favors' he is doing which have and will pay off in donations, and after his presidency. The energy companies rake in billions all told... billions of which their taxation is reduced being an energy supplier, and the leases are next to nothing per acre (roughly $1.50 per acre... first line bidding at $2.00/acre is intentionally bypassed). The profits stay with the energy companies. They do not go back into the economy, the government coffers, or payments made to the people. Besides the land being ravaged from the work, and made inaccessible to American citizens in the meantime, that crude, gas and coal which is the American peoples is lost to them forever once it is extracted.

This also does NOT result in lower fuel prices. Besides increases by OPEC (which are actually negligible), the biggest rises and falls we have seen in U.S. pricing has been a result of production capabilities. That would be all good and fine if it was truly due to real problems... however, the problems are intentional and manufactured. As an example, when fuel prices were so high during 2013/2014, it was due to refineries breaking down... however, they were intentionally NOT maintained at a rate due to wear to keep production lower, and thereby driving the price up. The arrogance of the fuel companies and their lobbying control over the government is so evident, that those facts were widely publicized.

Prices in your fuel rise and fall to insure that fuel company profits are never affected by current economy or market trends.

It's the citizen's lands, the citizen's natural resources... and only the energy companies and government officials reap the benefits of it.

Past that what do you folks arguing against this care... You're not Americans anyway.

Hush....an alias

 

BULLSHIT! Prices are dictated by OPEC. They control ~40% of our reserves. Just cracked me up when they called BOYCOTT on Exxon.
I had to explain that Exxon controlled 4-5% of the reserves, and could not possibly affect oil prices. Futhermore, when you fill your tank
with gasoline, it was 5% Exxon, 4% Shell, 3% citgo, etc etc etc. Regardless of the name of the gas station.

OPEC is NOT negligible in any sense.

Table for two. Got a reservation?

 

Hush, you use this word a lot, and I like it.

How do you actually say it out loud? Is it a shite sound, or shit, or sheet? When I read it, I want to hear it in my head correctly.

 

You know better than this. The US now has about as much output as Saudi Arabia. And for the past several years the market has ignored OPEC.

And let's not forget corporate welfare. Oil and gas companies still get subsides.

 

Really? America now controls the price of oil? Motherfucker, if that's true, I've been retired too long...

 

This is where we've gotten to? Asking a simple question is a lie now?
No matter.

Shooter did in fact do a Google search. He found lots of articles from the usual pundits attacking Trump for "selling out the nation's Federal Lands" which followed the usual of quoting "unnamed sources familiar with the situation" and were long on rhetoric and opinion and short on facts. The closest he came to anything of substance was a memorandum quoted as;

"to simplify and streamline the leasing process to alleviate unnecessary impediments and burdens, to expedite the offering of lands for lease," according to the memorandum."​

No tell all books alleging Trump is set to build new hotels on sacred tribal lands, no allegations of Trump and the Russians preparing to steal federal lands for themselves, no smoking gun e Mails.

Trump promised to cut unnecessary regulations, in particular Obama era regulations that hampered business with no benefit to the country.

He's keeping his promise, not selling America to the highest bidder, is what Shooter found.

Which prompted his question, what has Trump done to change how we lease Federal lands, and which prompted your irrational response.

No wonder we can't have anything nice around here.

 

It is just so funny to me to see you go through all this trouble just to prove my point and defeat your own argument.

 

People can continue to play dumb.

They won't be the ones who sees the consequences anyway.

Lol @ NIMBY. That doesn't really apply here.

 

Pigeon
chess
Swear to God, you must think you can see music to be so delusional.

 

This is how the world works dumbass, same-same for beef. We drill for oil here, and sell it for more than we could here, elsewhere. We raise beef here, virtually all of our beef goes overseas being a very high quality... the beef we eat is typically imported in from out of the country, because??? That's right, it's cheaper! The worst being ground beef which can contain "beef" from China, Australia, Argentina, blah-blah-blah all in one massive roll and it has been frozen, thawed, shipped around, refrozen, cut up and so on numerous times... PS, virtually all beef even steaks ribs and so on is dyed that color..

So, our oil goes out... "Our oil," America's, not Exxon, BP, etc., ours... and foreign oil comes in. Hence, the production differences.

Hush....an alias

 

You can sure tell when someone never gets out of the basement when they don't know what fracking has already done to Pennsylvania.

 

You didn't seem to have a problem when Odumass was doing it....

 

I really do love the way Republican and liberal extremists will both project onto independents.

Does a great job of showing their true colors fairly quickly.

Save the crocodile tears for Pennsylvania, idiot. You have no connection to this state whatsoever nor do you care about anybody in it.

Just another political football for you idiots to throw at each other.

 

Then perhaps you should step up and do something to protect your state and it's citizens... Oh, I forgot... You're simply full of bullshit, so all for seeing PA. fucked up. Go back to the coal mine putter.

Hush....an alias

 

Just like most other places when they moved in and started fracking the Marcellus shale no one had ever thought to have their well water tested for petroleum byproducts before they started drilling. So when they found out their water wells had been polluted there is no way they could prove it was caused by the massive fracking. And at the same time the gas companies talked towns with waste water treatment plants into treating their drilling waste water. And there is always a bunch of it and it can be expensive to dispose of. But no one told them the Marcellus shale is radio active which the treatment plants couldn't even detect let alone treat. So there were waste water treatment plants sucking in formation water, supposedly treating it, discharging it back into the rivers, only to be sucked up by the next town downstream that sucked up and treated it for drinking water. There is also radioactive cuttings and solid waste all over Pennsylvania because even the regulations they did have in place were woefully inadequate to deal with the drilling and fracking boom.

And now Trump has totally unleashed them.

 

Keep talking your dumb bullshit.

Coal? Try oil. That's what the industry was in that area before gas. Coal is a completely different part of the state, dipshit.

See it's you who's completely full of it because you have literally never done anything in your life to help the people or places you want to talk about most and seem to think your having chosen to be a prostitute makes you somebody who was born into their struggle.

Your opinion has no bearing on anything, sweetheart.

 

Last time I checked don't you work on rigs, stumbler?

So how on earth are you not part of the problem?

Practice what you preach.

 

Why yes I did. I spent 35 years working in the oil and gas industry. The best of that on drilling rigs. Where we didn't just let all our pollution, used oil, and waste water and methane run loose because we knew someone from the BLM would show up and because there were "regulations" they would fine the living fuck out of us. So we did not do that.

And now they are telling the oil and gas industry nobody from the BLM is going to show up. So don't worry.

That is how I know what I am talking about. Because a man has to do something for a living. Two things you know nothing about.

 

Oh yeah, cause BLM and EPA have been neutered by trump.

Jesus, the shit just keeps piling up....

 

Project onto me some more, dipshit.

You're still a hypocrite. Made a living off of the energy industry and its destruction of the Earth and want to act like you're Mister Green.